How does gambling, playing occult computer games, keeping silent while Jesus Christ is blasphemed, listening to rock music, defending President Bush's occult affiliations, drinking alcohol, participating in coarse, unclean conversation and unholy jesting and engaging in all kinds of worldliness make a Christian "rapture ready"? It doesn't.
Todd Strandberg's Rapture Ready Ready Message Board, which consistently conditions Christians to partake of these and other sins, has an agenda to make it certain that Christians are not rapture ready. Their stated
mission is the opposite of their actual
purpose as evidenced by their message board content. Much worldly and anti-Christian content is
promoted, backed or ignored by the administration. Either way, the kingdom of God is being undermined, rather than advanced through
the individuals who run this message board.
Relativism is the theme of the Rapture Ready Message Board: how a Christian feels while he is participating in behavior that violates biblical principles determines whether it is right or wrong. If he
feels comfortable gambling, then he may gamble. If he feels comfortable drinking, then he may drink, if he
feels comfortable playing occult computer games or typically sinful
movies then he may indulge, etc. As long as things don't get out of hand,
conforming to the world is promoted as being harmless as well as enjoyable. This is called giving place to the devil, and the Rapture Ready administrators and backers offer plenty of rationalizations to "help" the Christian justify
veering off and staying off the narrow way that leads to life.
The Bible describes the grace that brings salvation. This grace teaches Christians to deny ungodliness and worldly lusts, and live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world. These are the Christians who are actively "looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ." (See Titus 2:11-13) (Note:
This author believes the Lord Jesus Christ will return immediately after the Tribulation.)
The Rapture Ready administrators and backers who condone sinful compromise and worldly lusts—as evidenced through their posts or by their condoning silence while others post in this manner—are not really looking for the return of the Lord Jesus Christ. People who choose to live sinful lives after having received the knowledge of the truth are not looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life. Instead, they are looking for a fearful judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour God's adversaries. (See Heb.10:26,27)
Please guard your heart and do not walk in the counsel of the ungodly, stand in the way of sinners, or sit in the seat of the scornful in the guise of "Christian" message boards.
Not surprisingly, the Rapture Ready employees removed all the threads that I linked to for the purpose of
documenting the fact that they are doing everything they can to make
sure Christians are not ready for the Rapture.
Yoga, Reiki, and "The Passion of the Christ"
Yoga and Reiki are being presently discussed on the Rapture Ready Message Board. Except for one brief noncommittal post by Medic 911, no administrators are participating in these threads. Their silence serves to condone such practices or at the very least, it places them in the category of the unimportant.
Rapture Ready Administrators Promote The Passion
The administrators are not silent about the movie, The Passion of The Christ. They have made a point of lauding this latest apostasy tool in which the character, "Jesus Christ" is marked with antichrist symbolism! Mel Gibson has definitely marked this movie for Satan in several ways. The Passion is an ecumenical endeavor, strongly promotes Romanism and is not worthy of the Lord Jesus Christ.
Considering that the Rapture Ready administrators forbid posters to say that Roman Catholicism is not Christianity, it is not surprising that they are avidly promoting the movie, The Passion of The Christ. Ecumenism is the major vehicle through which the apostate One World Church
is being built.
Jesus said the gates of hell will not prevail against his church that is built upon the rock, which is himself. He did not say the gates of hell will not prevail against the church that is built upon ecumenism.
Todd Strandberg's Rapture Ready employees belittle those who stand against this
flagrantly occult-marked film by saying they are participating in the better Christian game. Obviously they are not pleased with the fact that so many of their board members still believe in absolutes. Of course those who have not seen the film are told that they must see it before they have any right to express concerns about it.
The Bible does not tell us to participate in the sins of the flesh in order to know they are wrong. We are to abstain from the appearance of evil. There are appearances of evil in the trailer previews of The Passion which was accessible on the internet before the movie was released. There are plenty of appearances of evil in the reviews written by both Christian and non-Christian alike. We do not have to receive the evil into our hearts and minds to know that we must abstain from it. In fact, it is wrong to commit sin in order to try to convince others of sin. The Holy Spirit convinces men of sin, and he does not sin in order to do this!
"Heavenlierealm" broached the subject of yoga in the Women's Forum:
is it ok as a christian to take yoga???? some people said it had to do with different beliefs, so im a bit weary??? have anie of u ladies taken it? wuts ur veiw?
(Quote source: A question about yoga)
Most of the responders recommended the practice of yoga--as long as one supposedly stays away from the spiritual aspects. It is impossible to separate the two. The physical postures of yoga are a bridge to Satan's spiritual realm. In fact, "Plainly stated, the objective of yoga is the deification of man. Such a view is radically different from Christianity, which clearly distinguishes between Creator and creature, God and man." (1)
Relativism is often promoted on Rapture Ready. Often posters will attempt to justify sin by stating that the Holy Spirit led them to do a particular thing. The Holy Spirit will not lead a Christian to partake of any activity that conflicts with biblical principles. Being led of the Holy Spirit includes being led of the scriptures.
I used to have an audiotape I used. I have a videotape I don't use real often. I do tend to be an anxious person and the yoga physical exercise was great for relieving stress and increasing my flexibility and muscle tone. I agree with what has been said so far. If you try it, stick to a class or tape that focuses on the yoga physical exercises and not philosophy. If the HS convicts you that it's not right for you then don't do it. Also, if you want to do it at home with a tape or DVD, your local library or video rental store may have some you can borrow/rent to look over before you invest in them. [bold emphasis added]
The Holy Spirit has already revealed what is "not right for us" (sin) in the Holy Bible. He has already told us that we must abstain from the appearance of evil and not give place to the devil. God has already made it clear that he hates a mixture of the holy and the profane. He does not want the Christian (who is commanded to be set apart for God) to mix with the profane ways of the heathen. We are not to partake of the heathen's religious practices-- no matter how "westernized" they may appear. God's people are commanded to learn not the way of the heathen. New Age/occult practices are heathen, "conforming to the world" practices, and as such much be avoided:
And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. Romans 12:2
The Reiki thread is rather telling. Mr Mann, a "poster" who gets away with virtually any manner of post without being banned, played the part of the cynic. This happens to benefit Satan's agenda:
I don't believe in "ki." I certainly don't think "the Human Energy System" is capable of reaching out to heal another.
Healing like that comes from God. Outside of His Touch, I'll place my trust in modern medicine. Too much superstition and fad in these ancient healing systems.
There are asian countries that believe powdered sea horses are a magical cure all. Obviously not true, but steeped in tradition.
I veiw this Reikie thing in the same light.
"Mr Mann" gave the impression that
Reiki, which is demonic healing via the transference of spirits through the laying on of hands or at a distance, is some harmless superstition or fad! This post misleads the reader into believing that the power transferred via the "attuned" Reiki practitioner's laying on of hands is not real, and thus not spiritually dangerous.
Medic 911 finally made an appearance in this thread. Rather than warning against participating in Reiki (and explaining that there is no such thing as Christian Reiki), he made a joke about it:
I don't get it.
So is Reiki Lake a Christian, or not?
Don't hold me in suspense.
Since demonic healing is part and parcel of the New Age Movement, which is the religious arm of the New World Order, it is not surprising that posts of this nature appear on Rapture Ready.
Medic 911 Wants to Know What is so Evil About a NWO?
Medic 911, who works to consistently promote pro-New World Order values on the Rapture Ready Message Board, posted a statement that indicates he is unaware of what the New World Order is all about:
I'm struggling to understand what, exactly, is evil about a NWO?
The fact that it will one day be hijacked by the anti-Christ?
(Quote from: Bush Urges Committment to TRANSFORM MIDDLE EAST: MUST READ!! This is HUGE FOLKS!)
Medic 911 knows what is evil about the New World Order. Becky, Christine, Medic 911 and the rest of Todd Strandberg's helpers and/or employees have posted many letters which promote NWO values and mock or silence real Christians who seek to warn of the loss of true Christianity as well as the loss of freedoms in the United States. These propagandist posts work to condition the Christian reader to go along with rather than resist the New World Order and One World Church.
Medic's second statement, "The fact that it will one day be hijacked by the anti-Christ?" is misleading because it is obvious that he knows enough about the New World Order to counter true Christians from exposing it on Todd Strandberg's forums.
Medic911 would not be able to promote The Plan so consistently unless he understood what the NWO is all about. The New World Order will not be hijacked or taken over by the Antichrist. The New World Order IS the satanic global regime of Antichrist and it is being implemented in stages right now in the United States.
Medic's statement misleads the reader into thinking that the New World Order is one form of government and the Kingdom of Antichrist is another. THEY ARE THE SAME. It is necessary for you to think that the New World Order is not the same government as Antichrist's regime. Why? Because if they are the same, then that means that Antichrist's goal of global rule is in the process of being implemented right now...and the Christians have not yet been raptured. That does not fit in with Rapture Ready's conditioning that "the Rapture will occur before any persecution comes to the United States." See:
Why Are Pretrib Promoters Trying to Control the Thinking of
Christians Who Don't Disappear?
The New World Order which is unfolding in stages, is the government that will be firmly in place when Antichrist is revealed and over which he will rule. The Rapture Ready administrators do not want you to know this, and furthermore, they downplay or censor posts which reveal how New World Planners are gaining ground in the implementation of the New World Order.
Martial Law: Submit or Resist?
RyanfromNE opened a thread called "Marshall law, Submit or Reisist" in which he posted this question:
If the U.S. enforces Martial Law, would you submit or resist?
I understand different circumstances may warrent different responses, so an explanation of why may help.
edited because: oh...... you'll find out
Medic911's first reply is as follows:
Unless it's in violation of God's Law somehow, then of course I'd submit....
although I can't imagine it lasting longer than 4 years.
Those are the sorts of answers which scare me.
Smallpox breaks out, mobs begin looting and burning cities, people are jumping quarentine... and you have people like Dorko waging their own little war against our own government.
Lovely recipie for utter chaos and increased death.
ellen5 wrote in part:
SO I WOULD SUBMIT... it is our governments job to protect us.... Terrorist want us to believe it is our government who are going to hurt us....
I WOULD SUBMITT... and tell all your friends... submitt... (bold emphasis mine)
This is a definite NWO-conditioning agenda going on in these posts. Ellen5's point is rather obvious. She said that those who believe the government is going to hurt Christians are terrorists!
Medic911's answer, as usual, is teeming with New World Order propaganda, which I am paraphrasing here: Of course Christians should submit to martial law "unless it's in violation of God's Law somehow."
My response: Many governmental directives under martial law will be in violation of God's law. Christians will be expected to disobey God as a matter of course in order to "go along with the program." Martial law is the way the New World Order— government of the beast—will be forcibly instituted.
Dorko's unqualified answer of "resist" scares Medic911? The idea of resistance is being made to mean sinful troublemaker in the context of a Christian facing an anti-Christ dictatorship! Resistance can mean refusing to hand one's children over to governmental authorities on demand, refusing dangerous vaccines, refusing to renounce faith in Jesus Christ, refusing to turn your neighbors in for "terrorist activity" (the "crime" of being Christians), refusing to receive an ID microchip implant, etc. Resisting sin is the issue here, and when martial law or any other law requires that we obey Satan rather than God, we must obey God.
The main purpose of this Rapture Ready thread is to condition the reader to think that resistance to governmental tyranny is wrong, and that those who resist the taking away of their inalienable rights are the enemy.
Medic911 equated resisting martial law (in which case the constitution would be suspended and the United States would become a virtual dictatorship) with "waging war against the government." He, his ellen5 backer, and others are placing Christians who resist tyranny into the category of terrorists. I can easily understand why Left Behind and Rapture Ready are closely connected. They have the same agenda. A major NWO goal is to cause people to think non-compromising Christians and terrorists are one and the same. Real Christians will not obey governmental directives when such obedience would place them in disobedience with the word of God.
This thread is useful to the Plan because resistance is limited to the idea of guns and violence rather than the emphasis being on how needful it is for Christians to resist satanic mandates--under martial law rule--in order to stand fast in the faith. The Christians are terrorists propaganda is being strongly promoted via many avenues, including the Left Behind Series. If Christians do not work to counter this wicked propaganda, they will become the victims of it.
Rapture Ready Administrators: Following The Plan in the Terri Schiavo Case
Medic 911 minimized the grave importance of the Terri Schiavo precedent-setting case by comparing it with abortion:
I understand how you all feel, and don't mean to diminish the importance of this at all... but how is this any different than the millions and millions of healthy babies aborted each year?
This is no worse, and that's been going on for decades.
(thread: Terri Has To Die)
Pay attention to the rest of Medic911's posts about Terri. At this writing, you won't find him or any other Rapture Ready administrator criticizing this illegal death decision or showing any compassion for Terri's plight...or caring about this matter in any way!
Roe Vs Wade was a precedent that set the stage for abortion-on-demand: doing away with "unwanted" babies from within their mother's wombs. This horrible precedent has been cunningly honed to the point where babies may be legally slain while they are being partially delivered!
We are now at the point in this death culture where the slaying of a baby, before he completely emerges from his mother's womb, is cause for celebration. See:
'Pro-choicers' clap after partial-birth abortion
Terri Schiavo's case is not another tragic case of abortion. It is in its own category and if followed through, will set a precedent the "right to die" people have coveted for a long time: doing away with a conscious disabled person. In time, this will escalate to the point where the government will "scratch from the game" (kill) any person they perceive to be a disabled misfit in this New World Order: the Christian and all who oppose this satanic regime. (Yes, there is plenty of documentation for this statement. It is forthcoming.)
Medic911 again played down Terri's situation! He again likened Terri's cruel treatment at the hands of government officials with abortion to try and minimize its ground-breaking importance:
Remember how angry you all are... and how sympathetic you are to her... and then remember the 40 million babies which will be aborted this year.
They're in the same boat.
Not to make light of Terri's situation, but it's just the "news story of the moment". There are many, many people suffering and dying. I know; I see them every day.
After Terri's saga ends, head on over to the prayer forum and do some praying and fasting for those-less-publicized who also need it.
(thread: Terri Can Be Saved!)
The Rapture Ready moderators and administrators, with the exception of Medic911's diversionary comments, are ignoring the calculated death plot that has been unleashed against Terri Schiavo. They do not criticize this integral part of The Plan, and are treating this extraordinary evil as not being worthy of comment! What need is there to share more Rapture Ready administrators' antichrist, pro New World Order examples?
Rapture Ready Administrators and P.O.D
An integral part of any conditioning process is to ignore whatever it is you want to condone. This tactic is used extensively on the Rapture Ready message board. Someone will bring up an important issue in the church, and the posters, under the authority of the Rapture Ready administrators, will make what is apostate look like the normal Christianity. This goes on in the other forums as well.
P.O.D. is an allegedly Christian rock group that is obviously anti-Christian and a mockery of all that is truly of the Lord Jesus Christ. Someone brought up the subject of P.O.D., and the Rapture Ready administrators did not mention that this group is against the Lord Jesus Christ. They did not feel that it was worth mentioning these documentable facts about P.O.D.:
Disobey the clear teachings of the Bible.
Pervert the Lord Jesus Christ.
Use filthy profanity in their speech.
Proudly admit to drinking alcoholic beverages.
Fellowship and promote openly wicked, vulgar and satanic music.
Corrupt the pure teachings of Jesus Christ with the false religion of Rastafarianism.
- Attack Bible Believing Christians and Christianity.
(See: P.O.D.: CCM's Prophet of Deceit)
The Rapture Ready administrators and moderators certainly manage to counter each and every post that threatens their agenda. The mention of P.O.D. on their forum was the perfect opportunity for Rapture Ready admins to warn against partaking of P.O.D.'s strange fire. But to do so would not further their spiritual mentoring agenda, which is to make certain that Christians are not ready for the real Rapture, which is when Jesus returns for his spotless and wrinkle-free church.
See: Hold on just one darn minute - P.O.D. and Marcos Curiel
Testimonies of Young People and Christian Rock was used to mock "Christian rock" discernment articles
Medic 911 Posts NWO Propaganda: No Persecution in US Before the Rapture
Stevangelist opened the thread, Why Do So Many People Think The Pre-Trib Rapture Takes Place Before Major..... and brought up the subject of Christian persecution in the United States:
Christian persecution happens here in the United States of America when in other parts of the World Christians Are Already Facing Major Persecution for their faith?
What do many Christians think will make us Christians here in America exempt from major persecution before the Pre-Trib Rapture?
HOLY BIBLE Matthew 10
20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.
21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.
22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.
How will the Rapture Ready Administrator—who has been assigned to watch over this forum and steer it in the NWO/ politically correct direction— respond?
Medic 911 wrote:
Personally, because our Christian population is the U.S. is far, far too high to allow any "true" persecution to occur. I mean good grief... something like 8 out of 10 people claim to be Christian here. People would not stand for it.
I understand the "other side's" feelings on the matter and why they disagree, but I just don't buy it. Here where I live for example, we have hundreds and hundreds of churches... all filled to the brim with Bible-believing Christians. Every fifth car has an Icthus on it. Christian bumper stickers are everywhere. We have four major Christian colleges.
It's just not realistic.
AFTER the Rapture, it's an altogether different story.
This is the goal of the New World Order planners: keep the carnal, conforming-to-the-world Christians assured of safety, even while Satan incrementally institutes his NWO regime right before their eyes. Just as the prophets of disobedient Israel saw visions of peace for her, God said there would be no peace. And there will be no peace for the wicked "Christian" either.
There is no peace, saith my God, to the wicked. Isa. 57:21
Why Did the Rapture Ready Admin Hastily Lock This Thread?
If the rapture didn't happen is a valid thread and a critically important question. What if the pre-trib rapture is not true? Will the faith of pretrib Christians be destroyed if Jesus does not return before the Tribulation? This is an important issue that should be discussed. This poster did not argue against the pretrib stance. She attempted to begin a discussion about what might happen to the faith of Christians if a pretrib rapture does not happen. Rapture Ready's definition of a pretrib rapture is the secret return of Jesus Christ for His people before any serious persecution against Christians begins in the United States.
Rapture Ready administrators are preventing Christians from discussing how their faith might be affected if a pretrib rapture does not occur!
Now don't get mad because I know this is a major Pre-trib messageboard and I am pre-trib also. BUT what would happen if the end times turned out to be post-trib. There are alot of people out there who believe in this as well. Can you imagine the disappointment with all of us who believed in a pre-trib rapture. Alot of peoples faith might even be shattered
Yankeedownsouth considered this a legitimate concern:
Being that I can't say anything in this forum about my end-times beliefs, I'm just going to sit back and watch how things here go. If this gets moved, I'll post my thoughts.
And Bopeep - I think this is a very legitimate question.
Joshua's Gen answered in conformity with the Rapture Ready administrators' position, but he unwittingly confirmed the point BoPeep made:
My faith is in Christ the person, not His timings according to His counsels.
[bold my emphasis]
Whether it turned out to be 7 years more before I seen Him return in Glory, my faith wouldn't be shattered.
It would still mean an eternity of difference.
If Jesus Christ gave counsel that He would return for His church before the tribulation begins, then faith in His person includes faith in His counsel. You cannot separate the two. That is exactly why BoPeep opened this thread for discussion. (And indeed, Jesus' very own counsel was that He will return immediately after the tribulation, and He mentioned specific signs that would precede His return.)
There were a total of 18 posts on this subject (less than one page) before Becky abruptly closed the thread. Thinking is not permitted on this subject. But her excuse for disallowing this legitimate and cordial discussion was as follows:
Closing thread because our faith is not in our end-time belief.
The Rapture Ready forum administrators (and numerous "posters" who "happen" to think exactly the way the moderators do on any given subject) state that the Bible—the very word of God— teaches a pretrib rapture. Rapture Ready focuses on faith in an end-time belief. It certainly does not focus on the faith of Jesus.
If the Bible really teaches a pretrib rapture, then Christians will have faith that God will cause this to occur. Their faith is in God, and they know He performs his word. They have been told that God's word indicates that He will return for his church before the Tribulation.
It is impossible to separate the two—faith in Jesus and faith in His word. The character of Jesus Christ is directly tied to His word, or His counsel, as Joshuas Gen put it.
If Jesus made a promise that He would return before the tribulation then His character is directly connected with the fulfillment of His word. (Jesus not only promised that He would return after the tribulation, He also prayed that the Father would not remove his followers from the world during tribulation.)
Mommy2KandM made these wise points:
think it is easier said then done to say ones faith would not be shattered or tested.
I am undecided on pre/post whatever.... But I do worry that some in the world are so sure that it is pretrib that when or if it is not they will begin to doubt. Start wonder if they have been believing a lie and turn away. Or think if they got that one wrong what else do they have wrong... the mind is a powerful thing and doubt is one of the things we as humans can succumb to so easily.
Things believed with less strength then the pre/post trib have caused people to lose or doubt their faith.
Because the character of Jesus Christ and the fulfillment of His word are directly related, it is VERY important for Christians to discuss how their faith would be affected if a pretrib rapture does not come to pass.
Closing this very important discussion is another huge indicator of the Rapture Ready agenda. A discussion about the possibility of Christians losing faith if Jesus does not fulfill what Christians have been told that he promised—a pretrib rapture—was hastily locked. Why should the Rapture Ready moderators feel threatened when Christians discuss their resolve to stand in faith even if the pretrib rapture does not occur?
[Note: The Bible does not forbid a Christian from partaking of any wine at all. We all know of the verse where Paul told Timothy to take a little wine for his stomach, and the verse that states that deacons are not to be given to much wine, etc. Of course the highly diluted wine of Bible times cannot be compared to the alcohol content of wines available today.
God's word forbids drunkenness and warns of the eternal fate of a drunkard (alcohol dependent person), which is hellfire. This article strongly discourages drinking and makes no apology for doing so. It is much safer not to drink any alcoholic beverages at all than to see how far you can go without crossing the line into inebriation. Do not make provision for the sins of the flesh. If alcohol is an area of the slightest temptation for you then you must not touch it. A Christian who does not drink at all will never become a drunkard.]
The Christian and sobriety: Total or Partial and Why it Matters
So far, the "is having a few beers wrong?" thread has grown to six pages. It takes a lot of repetition for attitudinal changes to take effect. Thus the "Christians may drink alcohol" threads are numerous.
The whole point of the alcohol threads is to give Christians convincing rationalizations to partake of alcohol.
Alcohol today is not the same as the wine of Bible times:
1. Wine, including fermented, was used in earlier times to purify water that was stored in cisterns and wells. That was a major use of it! It was mixed with water at a very low ratio, consisting of the lowest ration of (3 parts water to 1 part wine-which was the lowest acceptable ratio; this produced a drink that was 2.5-2.75% alcoholic) up to (20+ parts water to 1 part wine). Thus, it was a sub-alcoholic beverage, which is why pastors and deacons are "not given to wine," I Tim. 3:3; 8; Titus 1:7. In Prov.23:29-31 it speaks of those who "tarry long at the wine." This purification is not necessary in modern times--we have chlorine, sodium chlorohydrates,...
2. Wine today is different than Biblical wine. "Strong drink...unmixed wine..." in Biblical times was only 3-11% alcohol. Those who drank this form of alcohol were considered barbaric! Distillation, which increases alcohol content, was not discovered until A.D. 1500. Modern wine has 9-11% alcohol; 80-100 proof whiskey and brandy has 40-50% alcohol; Biblically and culturally, these would have been unthinkable!
A Christian's decision to have a few beers equals liberty in Christ, according to the Rapture Ready backers. What it really equals is a lack of complete sobriety, which is to the hurt of the Christian and the help of those who want that day to overtake God's people as a thief.
okay okay so i like to have a few beers on the weekend. being a christian i wanted to know if this was an ok thing with God to do.
linuxpenguin and others contended strongly—throughout the entire thread—in favor of Christians drinking alcohol! The thrust of these Christian pretenders' stance can summed up in the following sentence:
I see nothing wrong with enjoying a cold one.
The world, which lieth in wickedness, sees nothing wrong with it either. Paul warned Christians that those who commit the sin of drunkenness will not inherit the kingdom of God. (Gal. 5:21) The sin of drunkenness, which leads to hell, starts with only one drink. It is by having one "cold one" that paves the way for the imbibing of the next (and the next) cold one.
If you drink to "help you relax," then you are getting some measure of intoxication, and this is not being completely sober.
Dr. Cathy Burns made an excellent point about this very subject in her excellent book, Alcoholics Anonymous Unmasked:
"...for the sake of convenience let's assume that a person must drink six glasses of beer before getting completely intoxicated. What happens if this "social drinker" only takes two glasses of beer? Would you believe that this individual is already two-sixths drunk or over 33 percent intoxicated! Eve though a "social drinker" does not intent to become drunk and may be able to stop after two drinks, this person is nonetheless, partially drunk. Additionally, after only two bottles of beer or two shots of whiskey, a person's judgment is already becoming slightly impaired and his reactions are slightly slowed. The Bible explicitly tells us that Christians are to be sober (1 Thessalonians 5:6-8) and when a person is partially drunk he is not sober." (Alcoholics Anonymous Unmasked page 203)
Alcohol is a psychoactive drug.
Alcohol is a depressant.
Alcohol is broken down by the liver at a set rate, which cannot be changed
Alcohol is an anesthetic
Alcohol is likely to make you less cautious
Alcohol impairs your judgment
It is also interesting to note that one drink is intoxicating. Not by religious standards. This is from scientific research..."Duration of Intoxication: The onset of the effects of one drink of alcohol is about 15 to 30 minutes, depending on stomach content. The effects can be felt for 30 to 90 minutes, with another 45 to 60 minutes to come down and an after effect of about 1 to 2 hours including sleepiness, agitation, anxiety, headache, thirst and hunger. Because alcohol is secreted through the liver and urine, it does not stay in the body for a long period of time. "http://www.partnershipforawareness.org/alcohol.htm
All from one drink!
Drinking alcoholic beverages in order to relax creates an opening for Satan to work in your life. As time passes, you will develop a tolerance to alcohol. Satan will entice you to drink a little more alcohol, because the amount you had been using to "help you relax" will not be enough. If you listen to the majority of Rapture Ready's posters—curiously, they sound a lot like the administrators—you will rationalize your sin by telling yourself that your increased consumption of alcohol is perfectly fine as long as you are not getting drunk.
Maybe you will not get noticeably drunk. But you will gain a tolerance for alcohol, and require more of to achieve that "relaxed," feeling. This is learning on alcohol, rather than leaning on Jesus. It not being sober, it is not setting a godly example, and it is not walking after the Holy Spirit.
Satan (and his followers) love to trick Christians into giving place to the devil. No condemnation is for those who are in Christ Jesus: who walk not after the (lusts of the) flesh, but after the (Holy) Spirit. See Romans 8:1
To be sober is to be completely sober. Christians are not to sleep (regarding the signs of the times) like the children of the night, but are to watch and be sober :
But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober. 1 Thess. 5:6
But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation. 1 Thess. 5:4-8
When Jesus Christ returns, His people are to be sober, not slightly drunk:
Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ; 1 Peter 1:13
Being sober and watching for the day of the Lord go together. Rapture Ready is repeatedly running threads which condition Christians to be the opposite of being completely sober and therefore completely watchful. Drinking even one glass of today's high proof alcohol leaves one less than completely sober.
This goes right along with the fact that Rapture Ready administrators censor the posts which reveal exactly what Christians need to be sober and watching out for: the events (currently occurring)which reveal the unfolding of the One World Order―the kingdom of Antichrist. That Wicked will arise first, before Jesus Christ returns. That is why the events that are leading up to that Wicked being revealed (New World Order news) are being mocked, played down, and deleted at Rapture Ready.
To know these things would enable a Christian to take stock of himself spiritually so he could be ready to stand in the evil day. The administrators' posts indicate that they want Christians to wait to disappear in a passive, not-quite-sober state―rather than stand in holy watchfulness for the things that must come (New World Order takeover and revealing of That Wicked) before the day of the Lord. (Jesus' return for his saints.)
Ask yourself this question. If the Rapture Ready administrators really believed Christians will disappear in the clouds with Jesus before that Wicked is revealed (comes to power) then why are they so intent on keeping you from knowing about the events that are paving the way for him to come into power? And why do their posts (and their aliases and backers) further the New World Order agenda (Antichrist's agenda) and ridicule and ban the Christian posters who post warnings about it? If they really do not believe that Antichrist will rise to power while Christians are on the earth, why are they so intent on encouraging Christians to fall away from the faith of Jesus? This is the very thing that must occur (the falling away or apostasia) before that Wicked will be permitted to be revealed. Read 2 Thessalonians, chapter 2
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This Rapture Ready thread presents the falling-away-from-the-faith idea that uncleanness, foolish talking, and sexually desiring people they are not married to is acceptable Christian behavior.
Christians are commanded to be not conformed to this world. They are not to walk as the children of darkness do—in the vanity of their minds. God's people are not to engage in foolish jesting and "drool" and lust after people that do not belong to them. In fact, uncleanness is not to be even once named among the saints.
But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;
Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks. Eph. 5:3-4
Rapture Ready Administrators do not want Christians to know about the Bohemian Grove. They deleted the post, "Activists prepare for counter-Bohemian Grove ritual" and Patriot reposted and required the administrators to account for their actions:
To admins: For some reason this thread is being deleted instead of moved. Please make sure it ends up in the forum it is moved to. Thanks. Also, why is this thread being moved in the first place? This seem the correct forum.
[deleted by admin]
Becky's answer was the typical answer given to stave off posts that expose the globalist agenda:
This is not a conspiracy board.
Thread closed. Post deleted.
Why are the Rapture Ready administrators preventing Christians from reproving evil that furthers the New World Order agenda on their forum? Why are they protecting those who do evil by covering up for them through the deletion of posts by concerned Christians?
Alex Jones' video,
DARK SECRETS: INSIDE BOHEMIAN GROVE reveals:
Since 1873, the Global Elite Has Held Secret Meetings in the Ancient Redwood Forest of Northern California. Members of the so-called "Bohemian Club" Include Former Presidents Eisenhower, Nixon and Reagan. The Bush Family Maintains a Strong Involvement. Each Year at Bohemian Grove, Members of This All-Male "Club" Don Red, Black and Silver Robes and Conduct an Occult Ritual Wherein They Worship a Giant Stone Owl, Sacrificing a Human Being in Effigy to What They Call the "Great Owl of Bohemia."
Now, for the First Time in History, an Outsider Has Infiltrated Bohemian Grove with a Hidden Digital Video Camera and Caught the Ritual on Tape. That Man is Alex Jones, the Exclusive Digital Video is Just Part of His Shocking New Documentary: DARK SECRETS: INSIDE BOHEMIAN GROVE
Here is a website where you can read the article Rapture Ready deleted. Activists prepare for counter-Bohemian Grove ritual
Rapture Ready Administrators Defend Pastor Administrator's Use of Curse Word
Cursing is not the faith of Jesus. Justifying sin (as exemplified by the other Administrators) is also not the faith of Jesus. If a Christian ever utters such words, he must immediately confess and forsake them and ask the Lord to help him not to repeat this sin.
Why did this Administrator (a pastor) lace his post with a curse word? This was an opportunity for the Rapture Ready Administrators to work together to continue their fueling the falling away agenda:
1Cor123 (Rapture Ready Administrator and Pastor) wrote:
ITS STILL A MESSAGE BOARD!! And you post like EVERYONE should already know about it!!
Had this quote off other message board...
Just once! Just once, a thread that doesn't whine, bitch, moan, or complain about another message board would be so refreshing in its originality.
But, hey, maybe you could start a thread in 'Questions' addressing tha....wait....
I see you have.
You may read the five page thread to see all the responses, but here is Christine's response: Using this vulgar word is not really cursing. It is merely slang:
Oh, okay -- thanks for explaining. I have never heard the phrase "bitch and moan" referred to as cussing before. I thought it was pretty commonplace in American slang.
Different strokes and all that, but I don't consider it inappropriate for the board.
The Bible says that Christians are not to be conformed to this world. That includes vulgar "slang" or what has always been known in the church as using "swear" words.
On page 5 of this thread, discovergrace wrote a lengthy post expressing her feelings about how wrong it is for a pastor to curse and then refuse to apologize. Part of her post is as follows:
1Cor...putting stipulations on your apology is NOT what the bible says. Even if you have been wronged, you are to humble yourself before your brothers and sisters and ask for forgiveness.
I do not go into the apologetics forum because it is far too rough for me. And I HAD a problem with the use of your language. If you can find a post from me that was offensive or complaining then please call me on it so that I can see where I need to change.
Until then, I suggest that we pray before we hit the send key.
This truly is sad. And to answer someones question of whether I would allow my child to tell me to quit complaining (with the b word) I would most definitly discipline him...as the word of God tells me to bring him up in the way that he should go.
Would any of you preach from the pulpit using this word?! How many would get up and walk out? We are told to not compromise the gospel. The gospel talks about foul language and our witness. It also talks about what comes from the mouth is also from the heart.
Any real pastor would have been grieved that he was causing one of these little ones to stumble, and would have admitted that using that vulgar phrase was sin, not merely uncalled for, and asked for forgiveness. Not this Rapture Ready "pastor." And Becky, true to Rapture-Ready-Administrator-form, backed him up and locked the thread. They always lock the threads when the Christians get the upper hand by standing firm on the word of God.
The hypocrisy is incredible.
He did say it was uncalled for.
You all seem to hold vendettas against others on the board.
Rapture Ready Administrators Remove Post Called, "Why do Catholic festivals have kegs of beer and gambling"
If you read this thread you will begin to understand the degree in which this message board is censored if the posts are not in keeping with the anti-Christian agenda of the administration. They will not remove posts that discuss sex in an explicit fashion or posts that promote rock and roll, promote occult computer games and movies, and promote Halloween and Harry Potter but they remove posts that could help Roman Catholics begin to question what is going on in Roman Catholicism, and then hopefully, to question Roman Catholicism itself. They also ignore, minimize, counter, or delete posts that reveal the rampant ungodliness and hell-sending teachings within the ranks of Evangelicals.
Attorney General John Ashcroft: A Christian?
A poster presented this question to the End Times Events Forum:
Is John Ashcroft a good Christian with morals (I'm sure everyone remembers the statue ordeal), or is he one of the main leaders in America trying to turn our country into a police state? I have my opinions, just curious what everyone else thinks. (What's your take on John Ashcroft?)
I was not surprised to find some posters sending the message that John Ashcroft—a high-ranking US globalist who is at the forefront of eroding our constitutional liberties— is a Christian. RLB wrote:
Doesn't he belong to an Assemblies of God church? I think I read that somewhere. Their endtime views are similar to Rapture Ready so at least he should be aware of how his church looks at Israel and world events.
A person is not necessarily a Christian if he belongs to a church. Many politicians go to church. This is good for their image.
RLB posted proof of Ashcroft's church membership:
Famous Members of the Assemblies of God
John Ashcroft - U.S. attorney general (2001 - ); former senator from Missouri; first AoG member to be elected as a U.S. congressman....
Another poster said he thinks John Ashcroft is a Christian who does not follow Christ's example. Of course there is no such thing as a Christian who does not follow Jesus Christ, but notice this little message slipped right in? On Rapture Ready, a Christian is anyone who professes Christianity (or in this case is on a church roll), even if his actions indicate that he is serving another master:
If I was judging by action Ashcroft would fall into the very fundamentalist Christian camp. Do I think he follows Christ's example? No. But the state of his soul is for him and the Lord to figure out. I personally can't stand the guy, but that is just my take on him.
Another person posted quite a piece of propaganda:
I think he's a good practicing Christian...
who's dead wrong on 'Homeland Security'...
I have a practice in my trade, I never hire Christians who wear their Christianity on their sleeve,... they're some of the worst workers I've ever met...
John Ashcroft let's us know he's a Christian, but his knowledge of civics is woefully lacking,...
he does not understand in what 'spirit' the Bill of Rights and other Founding Documents were drafted.
Just WHO is suppose to protect WHOM in our country, and from WHAT,... as intended by our Founding Fathers?
Rapture Ready's readers are supposed to fall for this and believe that Attorney General John Ashcroft is a "good practicing Christian" who is simply misguided and confused about civics. They are supposed to believe that Attorney General John Ashcroft does not understand that his actions are exactly what the globalists ordered for the United States of America.
Of course you will not see any Rapture Ready administrator coming on and countering these misleading posts and warning that John Ashcroft can not work for Satan and God at the same time. He serves one or the other, and you will know whom he serves by his fruits.
No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. Matt. 6:24
Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Matt. 7:20
See: General Ashcroft's Detention Camps
Camps for Citizens: Ashcroft's Hellish Vision
Ashcroft’s Master Plan to Spy on Us
Rapture Ready Administrator sent Blatant Anti-Christ Message: Christians Don't Have to Be Willing To Die For Jesus Christ
Tony posted a thread entitled, "How Many of You Would Die For Christ?" This is the kind of thread Rapture Ready administrators do not like. Here is Tony's opening sentence:
I wonder how many of you--including myself--would die for Christ?
You can tell by Medic's two curt responses that he does not like this poster's comments. Rapture Ready does not want Christians to think the scenario Tony suggested in his post might come to pass. They constantly push the idea that Christians will be raptured before anything like this ever happens in the United States. Here is more of Tony's post:
How many of you, if confronted by government agents at your own door, would sign a statement confirming that you believe in Christ alone? Now how many of you would do so, if signing that statement meant that you would be immediately taken into your backyard and shot or beheaded for your faith?
I urge all of you to pray that Christ will use you as instruments for His will in these perilous times--whatever the cost--whatever the price. He paid the ultimate price for us--will we do the same for Him?
This poster asked the same question twice. Are you willing to die for the Lord Jesus Christ?
Medic 911 jumped into this thread to maintain control, and his answers to the question are anti-Christ because of what he did say and what he did not say in his responses to this question. I am quoting only the portion of his responses that answers the question directed to Christians: Are you willing to die for Jesus Christ?:
(Medic's first response) Anyway, I would say that a great majority of us would also die for Christ.
Medic 911 sent the message that you can be a true Christian and not be willing to die for Jesus Christ. By saying "a great majority of us would also die for Christ" he is saying that some Christians may refuse to die for Christ because they love themselves more than they love Jesus. Due to Rapture Ready's eternal-security-while-continuing-to-serve-sin salvation doctrine, Medic's answer indicates that Christ-denying Christians would go straight to heaven to be confessed before the Father by Jesus Christ.
The Bible—not Rapture Ready administrators—is the measuring line for truth. A Christian must love Jesus Christ supremely, and put his interests first, even if death comes to him in the process. If a Christian denies Christ before men, Jesus will deny him before his Father in heaven. Jesus said:
But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. Matt. 10:33
Real Christians of the enduring-to-the-end kind (the kind Jesus said would be saved) know they must be ready to offer up their lives for the sake of Jesus and the gospel:
"Every man and woman on earth that take themselves for true Christians, and do not deny themselves for life and all, for the sake of Christ and the hope of everlasting glory, are mere self-deceivers, and no true Christians at all."—William C. Nichols (The Gospel and Martyrdom)
Medic 911 is sending the message that you can be a true Christian and not be willing to die for Jesus Christ. This is a huge part of the antichrist agenda of the Left Behind Series and as we can see, Rapture Ready is following suit.
(Medic's second response) Excellent point...! Peter himself denied Jesus (three times!). A lesson can be learned here: even the most devout disciple is "only human" and thus prone to human weaknesses. This is precisely why we must rely on God's Grace for salvation, rather than our own piety.
Medic 911 failed to mention that the very important fact that Peter repented of his grievous sin of denying his Lord. Notice Medic reduced the sin of denying Christ before men to a mere human weakness. Yes, Christians must rely on God's grace for salvation, but God's grace reigns through righteousness, not through sin. (See Romans 5:21) Grace does not reign through the cowardly and sinful act of denying of Jesus Christ before men in order to save one's life in this world—and refusing to repent of it.
Fear: the Opposite of Faith
Christians are saved by grace through faith. But if a Christian gives in to fear and denies the Lord Jesus Christ to avoid persecution, he is not standing in faith, but is falling away in fear. Fearful Christians are not standing in faith. It is by faith, not fear, that a Christian stands in the grace of God.
The fearful deny Jesus Christ in order to save their own lives in this world, and the fearful refuse to repent like Peter did. The fearful refuse to identify themselves completely with Christ and take up their own crosses and follow him—and die for him if necessary.
The fearful deny Christ before men and are denied by Jesus before his Father in heaven. It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God:
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. Rev. 21:8
God has not given us the spirit of fear, but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind. Fear can bring a Christian to the point of denying Jesus Christ. Purpose to have faith in Jesus, rather than fear due to circumstances. God will give you the grace for every situation as you continue to have faith in Him. He will never leave you or forsake you if you continue with him in faith. Please do not forsake him by giving in to fear and denying his name. Be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus, and endure hardness as a good soldier of Jesus Christ.
Rapture Ready poster, BAF, posted a 100% Guy Joke to the Men's Forum. This unclean "joke" was comprised of a list of reasons why men are cool. This joke provided an opportunity to condition Christians to condone unclean, unholy, off-color jokes that the world runs after in their blind ignorance of God. It only takes a little leaven to leaven an entire joke:
The world is your urinal.
Hot wax never comes near your groin.
The punch line is the most coarse, which is why it is presumably so funny:
Ten Things men know for sure about women.
10. They have breasts.
The Bible commands Christians to:
Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers. Eph. 4:29
People who are under grace and are looking for the return of Jesus Christ deny ungodliness and minister grace with their words. Real Christians put worldly lusts (including coarse jesting) out of their lives:
For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; Titus 2:11-13
Denying ungodliness includes denying yourself fellowship with those who promote and condone ungodliness.
BloodBought, a Christian, asked this question:
"Hi guys...can you tell me what the bible says about drinking alcohol."
1 Cor.123, a Rapture Ready administrator and pastor piped right in with a compromising answer:
While there is nothing that explicitly comes out and says '"don't drink alcohol" there is, I believe, strong inferrances (sic) to at the very least don't let alcohol control you. (thread: Need advice...NOW)
Notice that this Rapture Ready administrator did not exhort the poster to abstain from alcohol! He also gave the Christian the thumbs-up to indulge—as long as he kept his alcohol "under control." (How many alcoholics started out on the road to spiritual and physical destruction by such Bible-rejecting advice?) 1Cor.123 did not even bother to quote the well-known verse that popped into my mind:
Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise. Proverbs 20:1
The Bible is abundantly clear that wine mocks and strong drink is raging. Whoever is deceived by a Rapture Ready administrator into thinking that Christians may drink for "social reasons" (ie, for the purpose of being conformed to this world rather than being set apart for the Lord's use) is deceived and not wise.
A poster (angelbaby) in the We That Struggle forum is worried
because her husband, who considers himself a Christian, plays occult computer games night and day. These games include killing, casting spells, magic, etc. Of course a poster (kc78) responded in this manner:
it's not the type games he's playing that's the problem. Many people play these games. Now, these games do tend to take a lot of time to play well. However, the problem lies in the fact that he's married and needs to get his responsibilities straight. He has a wife and kids to be there for. An hour or two of video gaming isn't horrible, but hours on end while in a relationship can kill it. [bold emphasis mine] See:
The type of games played is definitely the problem, as well as the duration of his gaming. Also, an hour of two of occult video gaming is horrible. He who continues on this path--refusing to repent-- will go to Hell.
Any person (Christian or not) who plays occult computer games is giving place to the devil and having fellowship with demons. Period. Rapture Ready is allegedly a Christian-run forum. Will the Rapture Ready administrators stand up for Jesus and against Satan and tell this poster that playing occult games is sin and is spiritually dangerous? Or will they ignore this thread? Or will they answer this in a watered-down manner? We shall see.
Another poster (linuxpenguin) reaffirmed the lie that occult games are not the problem. Rather, the amount of time spent playing occult games is said to be the problem:
I don't think the games he is playing is a big deal. It's the amount of time he is spending playing them that is the problem.
The administrators of this forum that calls itself Christian have not spoken up and warned these posters that playing occult computer games is serious sin and off limits for a child of God.
Deception need not come directly through the Rapture Ready administrators in order for it to spiritually harm others:
Many times the deception does not even have to come through that leader--it is simply said by someone else--and then it is merely upheld by the silent support of that leader. (quote source: An Open Letter On Discernment)
The administrators are often silent when sin is promoted or defended on the forums. This is an effective way to desensitize Christians to the soul-destroying nature of sin.
A professed Christian who plays poker for a living, asked the question. "Is it a sin for a Christian to gamble?. On Rapture Ready, right and wrong are often blurred, and situation ethics are subtly promoted. This answer, given by a Carmen—a Rapture Ready moderator— gives the impression that God might call some individuals to gamble and some not to gamble:
IMHO, the point isn't what rule God has set up for everybody to follow on this....it's what He's calling each of us, individually, to do. Do you feel convicted about gambling? Is it changing your priorities, making God and the more important things in life, less important? Then you shouldn't gamble. --Carmen
A recurring theme on the Rapture Ready Message Board is relativism. How a Christian feels while he is participating in a questionable behavior determines its sanctity or sinfulness. If he feels comfortable gambling, then he may gamble. If he feel comfortable drinking, then he may drink, etc. As long as things don't get out of hand, a bit of conforming-to-the-world is quite harmless and rather enjoyable. This is called giving place to the devil, and Rapture Ready's administrators and backers have plenty of rationalizations ready to lure the Christian reader to step off the narrow way that leads to life.
Rapture Ready moderator, Carmen gives advice to a woman poster who has a suicidal friend who wants to take his life but doesn't want to go to hell: "He won't go to hell for committing suicide, although I believe doing so would be a sin." About Suicide 5/22/05
Mr. Mann (his posts are always in agreement with the administrators' pro NWO political biases) and Medic 911 believe some Americans don't deserve civil rights!...Protest Now A Terrorist Act In CA
One day Christians will be considered to be the hate groups!
Rapture Ready administrators
send the message: Don't take a stand against a blasphemous website. It is just a spoof-- a joke. (Interestingly, this anti-Christ website, landoverbaptist.com promotes Tim LaHaye and Jerry B. Jenkins' book, The Mark on their main page!) 5/19/93
Rapture Ready administrator
sends the message that George Bush's present Skull and Bones membership does not preclude him from being a Christian. (Yes it does!) By
President Bush's fruit, we will know him. Also, the idea was presented that a Christian might continue in fornication for years after being saved--because he has not spiritually matured enough to know better. The message sent is that you can love Jesus with all your heart while committing the sin of fornication. This is not true! Note: The administrators are threatened because a Christian is speaking up about their censorship. Notice the tactics the administrators employ against this poster... 5/19/21
Also see: A "Christian" Message Board Run By Satan's Workers
Strandberg's NWO Conditioning Forums are Run by Employees
and Why Are Pretrib Promoters Trying to Control the Thinking of "Not-Disappeared" Christians?
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